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It doesn't have to be the same player, planeswalker, or battle that Arthur or any other attacking creatures are attacking
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Most effects that require you to give up your permanents are very powerful in order to justify that cost
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For XR, Meltdown can destroy every artifact in play that's mana value is the X paid or less
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Wayta foregoes ramping and field-building in favor of an indirectly aggressive, destructive strategy
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